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Ist it worth going from IF to ZB?
Topic Started: Oct 5 2009, 10:50 PM (538 Views)
welshtony
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Ok didnt really know where to post this.

What advantages/disadvantages do you get fro converting to ZB?
Whats the differnce between the both?

I dont know if I should or shouldnt do it.

I like IF but dont really know anything about ZB.
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Will
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The list of differences is large and ever-changing.
Try registering a free board to test out it's features: http://s1.zetaboards.com/zb/register/

You may also wish to view our ZetaBoards new feature list for administrators and new features for members documentation articles.

ZetaBoards was built from the ground up, and will continue to receive new features and service upgrades as we continue to grow.
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Only thing about ZB is some of the things on IF we got free if you want them you have to get ZetaBoards Premium. Which kind of suck for people like me who can't afford it.
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DocZulu
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I recently made the conversion and I have to say that there are lots of little things that you'll miss if you convert. While the boards are cleaner and provide some improved functionality, the zata are quite junky.


  • You can't easily delete messages from your inbox.


  • Subscribers to threads/topics no longer receive emails when new posts are added.


  • HTML code is banned (for the most part).



This may seem like minor issues, but added together and it can change the nature of a community. I only have 100 members and even with that small numbers the changes have been very disruptive.
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welshtony
Oct 5 2009, 10:50 PM
Ok didnt really know where to post this.

What advantages/disadvantages do you get fro converting to ZB?
Whats the differnce between the both?

I dont know if I should or shouldnt do it.

I like IF but dont really know anything about ZB.
I would make the jump to Zetaboards; InivisionFree does have a lot of resources out for it though.
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cvn-tv-dip
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DocZulu
Oct 19 2009, 02:24 PM
* You can't easily delete messages from your inbox.


* Subscribers to threads/topics no longer receive emails when new posts are added.


*HTML code is banned (for the most part).
To delete PMs permanently, first archive it from inbox and then delete it inside the archive. It works like the recycle bin. I would say though that the conversation-based format isn't always good.

HTML is only removed in the actual board (posts, etc.) because HTML embedded in posts can potentially be dangerous without members even realizing it (mainly hidden things that don't appear to do what they actually do). ZB has an extensive list of BB codes that mimick most of HTML features if necessary. HTML should still work in Admin CP, I believe.

I don't really use ZB right now so I can't say much, but from my experience in this board, I would say there are some really handy things. Searching for posts within individual threads is a good example.
Edited by cvn-tv-dip, Oct 19 2009, 02:58 PM.
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DocZulu
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That's why I said that the Zetaboards were junky.

  • Why should you have to archive a message before deleting it?


  • Further, the HTML button does not cover all of the functionalities of actual HTML.


  • And you did not address the issue of post subscriptions. That is an InivisionFree feature that is important to message board communities.

This is what is compromised when converting over. He should know the risks of converting before making any decisions.
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You must remember that ZetaBoards IS new, and still growing each day(Even at it's state now is better than Invisionfree). Invisionfree is old, like 7 years not sure on the exact date. The amount of bugs fixed, and features included for ZetaBoards is amazing. Consider the fact that the conversion from Invisionfree to ZetaBoards is free of charge, while others would cost money. You must also see the security behind ZetaBoards, it's much more enhanced than Invisionfree - getting cracked is virtually impossible unless it's fault towards the user. PLUS the fact of great support from the staff and knowledgeable members.


DocZulu, I don't know for sure why Zetaboards has it to archive a message before it's completely deleted - maybe if you didn't want to delete it you would still have it. Just as cvn-tv-dip said it's kinda like a recycle bin. About the post subscriptions, I'm sure Brandon will write that in when he gets around to it - but for the time being I believe you could just use a modification as I'm sure I've seen one before.


Also, Country - what is it that you are going to miss from IF that ZB doesn't already have plus more? Invisionfree cannot have unlimited subforums for one.
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Well, I personally use ZetaBoards for one of my boards and I don't have any complaints. I've tested it while it was still in the beta edition. I'm really surprised how it managed to be so advanced in so many ways and new at the same time, from the start. If there was a IF vs. ZB poll going on here, I'd definitely choose ZB, because it's more secure and it has more features than IF will ever have. Plus IF is just based on and it is a modified version of IPB v1.3.

My first board was on IF, so I know what I'm talking about.

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cvn-tv-dip
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Oct 19 2009, 03:03 PM
That's why I said that the Zetaboards were junky.

  • Why should you have to archive a message before deleting it?


  • Further, the HTML button does not cover all of the functionalities of actual HTML.


  • And you did not address the issue of post subscriptions. That is an InivisionFree feature that is important to message board communities.

This is what is compromised when converting over. He should know the risks of converting before making any decisions.
1) Why not? It's a safety feature. You can remove unwanted PMs from your inbox. And if you're sure about deleting them, then you do so permanently (this feature assumes you understand the consequences). This doesn't make it any "harder" to delete PMs. Personally I don't think it's bad at all.

In ZB threads have the exact same feature, to put them away instead of or before permanently deleting them. It's there for the same reason.

2) It's a limitation, but it also makes it safer, at least in theory. Instead of knowing HTML itself you can use simpler BB codes for basic things - ZB extends that to most of the things within posts.

3) No, I did not. Again, I don't know very much about ZB because I still use IF, which at this time is all I need. I know that IF has certain things I prefer.
Edited by cvn-tv-dip, Oct 19 2009, 04:15 PM.
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welshtony
Oct 5 2009, 10:50 PM
Ok didnt really know where to post this.

What advantages/disadvantages do you get fro converting to ZB?
Whats the differnce between the both?

I dont know if I should or shouldnt do it.

I like IF but dont really know anything about ZB.
To return to his original question:

It is your choice to consider upgrading to the Zeta boards. I would look at your needs and consider what aspects of the Invision forum you are willing to lose. Zetaboards is a cleaner looking forum space which allows for easy creation of subforums. You should know, however, that not all of the features you are accustomed to will carry over into the Zetaboards.
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Concerning post subscriptions: PM- and Email-based subscriptions are available for Premium and are on the list of ZB features that are likely to be available for all.
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We have had both formates and over all ZETA is by far the best...

...still membership involvement has suffered on our discussion board by not having the :
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PM- and Email-based subscriptions are available for Premium and are on the list of ZB features that are likely to be available for all


We hope this happens sooner then later.
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Oct 19 2009, 04:57 PM
welshtony
Oct 5 2009, 10:50 PM
Ok didnt really know where to post this.

What advantages/disadvantages do you get fro converting to ZB?
Whats the differnce between the both?

I dont know if I should or shouldnt do it.

I like IF but dont really know anything about ZB.
To return to his original question:

It is your choice to consider upgrading to the Zeta boards. I would look at your needs and consider what aspects of the Invision forum you are willing to lose. Zetaboards is a cleaner looking forum space which allows for easy creation of subforums. You should know, however, that not all of the features you are accustomed to will carry over into the Zetaboards.
Take Will's advice and set up a ZB test board. There are lots of free themes available and some really nice features, but there are differences that take a little getting used to. It's not difficult, and it can even be fun. ;)

While you're at it, encourage your members to visit the test board and play with it. That way if there's something they absolutely love that you can't figure out for ZB you can postpone the upgrade. They may like it so much they're not put off by things like no email notifications for PM's. Our members miss it, but not as much as they thought.
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I agree with the above post - people may sometimes forget that you do not need an IF board to get a Zetaboard. You can start a fresh Zetaboard instead.
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