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Roman Polański arrested
Topic Started: Sep 27 2009, 02:21 PM (224 Views)
Nemomon
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Roman Polański, well known Polish director (Rosemary's Baby), screenwriter (The Fearless Vampire Killers), actor (Una Pura formalita) and producer (The Pianist) has been arrested in Switzerland. He went there to take an award, and he got captured by police on the airport.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33042460/ns/entertainment-celebrities/
Edited by Nemomon, Sep 27 2009, 02:22 PM.
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Seems like a waste of time at this point especially considering even the victim wants this to be over.
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Agree with that. That should be over long time ago. He weren't able to take his Oscar award for The Pianist, because of that what happen long time ago. And now FBI star to talk with Switzerland and they captured him. Looks like USA is a very happy place, since, because now there is no crimes, they must sue people for a single crime 30 years ago :/. I heard, Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs will try to convice Obama to use pardon law.
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OcelotJay shrugs.
That a crime took place some time ago is fairly irrelevant - depending on the crime of course. Something petty can be dismissed, I think we can all agree; something major cannot, and anything in-between...well, it's debatable. Given that the charge was rape and he fled fearing a worse punishment, I'm not all that surprised that they're still pursuing it. I don't like the idea that the justice system serves only the tangible present. Successfully evading capture, or fleeing before being sentenced/imprisoned, shouldn't be grounds for dismissal of the case. I mean, if he'd murdered this person we wouldn't be debating the matter, right? =ermm: Severity of the crime matters more than the timespan, and taking advantage of a thirteen-year-old is a rather heinous thing to do.
It seems that not only does time heal but it placates people into moral apathy.
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His victim, Samantha Geimer, who long ago identified herself publicly, has joined in Polanski's bid for dismissal, saying she wants the case to be over. She sued Polanski and reached an undisclosed settlement.
And so today's brand of "justice" has been served. :eh:
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Sure people these days don't care about actual 'justice', just how much money they can get in the court case while calling it 'justice'. This is especially true in America where the suing culture first started. You can be sued for practically anything over there. And now, unfortunately the disease we call suing is spreading to Europe. I fear for my wallet and all that lives there.

As for Polanski, since it is rape he is being held for, I don't think that just because a large amount of time has passed, that he suddenly becomes the victim in this case, and is being pursued wrongly and unfairly. I think it might all this uproar about his detainment may also be something to do with the fact he is a 'celebrity'. If it had been some complete no-lifer off the streets, not only would they have hunted him down, but they would have gotten him in well under thirty years.
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Well.. we shouldn't forget also his dramatic past, when Manson killed his wife, child and few other friends. Then that accident wasn't rape, since she agried to it. That was just having sex with a not adult girl.
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Nemomon
Sep 30 2009, 04:56 PM
Then that accident wasn't rape, since she agried to it. That was just having sex with a not adult girl.
If she's not an adult ("adult" being defined by that particular country/state's laws), she can't legally consent to it, so it's still legally rape unless her parents consent.
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Sep 30 2009, 08:09 PM
Nemomon
Sep 30 2009, 04:56 PM
Then that accident wasn't rape, since she agried to it. That was just having sex with a not adult girl.
If she's not an adult ("adult" being defined by that particular country/state's laws), she can't legally consent to it, so it's still legally rape unless her parents consent.
From what Polański said in him book, that girl was given to him by her mother to hire her to a movie. Even Samantha said, that he didn't rape her, since she knew that she will have sex with him. That's just having sex case, not rape sex. Maybe finally whole case will end, previously judgement made many mistakes, now Samantha want to finish this case, maybe Polański finally will be free.
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Nemomon
Oct 1 2009, 04:16 AM
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Sep 30 2009, 08:09 PM
Nemomon
Sep 30 2009, 04:56 PM
Then that accident wasn't rape, since she agried to it. That was just having sex with a not adult girl.
If she's not an adult ("adult" being defined by that particular country/state's laws), she can't legally consent to it, so it's still legally rape unless her parents consent.
From what Polański said in him book, that girl was given to him by her mother to hire her to a movie. Even Samantha said, that he didn't rape her, since she knew that she will have sex with him. That's just having sex case, not rape sex. Maybe finally whole case will end, previously judgement made many mistakes, now Samantha want to finish this case, maybe Polański finally will be free.
The news seems to report an alternative story too (albeit it wouldn't surprise me if it's just a cover for the original lawsuit), that he drugged her and forced her to have sex with him.

Either way the circumstances are pretty irrelevant. She was a minor, that means it was statutory rape. It doesn't matter if she consented or not, the law forbids minors to have sex - a fairly arbitrary and pointless law, I admit, but one that is meant to protect naive and stupid kids from manipulative adults; and vice versa I guess - and any adult who does have sex with a minor, whether or not the child agreed, has committed rape.

There's also the issue of him having fled after fearing he might get a longer prison sentence. If this were any ordinary paedophile, I'd be fairly willing to bet you wouldn't show this much compassion or leniency. =-/
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This was not simply consensual sex with a minor. This was not a seduction. He was in his 40's. She was 13. He drugged her and sodomized her. This is rape of a child and a heinous pedophilic act. Consent is not in anyway an issue. He admitted guilt and knowledge of her age, and then fled before he could be sentenced. No civilized person could see this as anything but a violent crime committed against a child.

Regardless of any financial settlement, the man is a felon. The seriousness of the crime is not diminished because he is a celebrity or has done admirable things since.
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