Linus Torvald's C++ Rant

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Linus Torvald's C++ Rant; Contains foul language in the link
Topic Started: Jul 28 2009, 01:47 PM (408 Views)
Grant A.	Jul 28 2009, 01:47 PM Post #1
Member Posts: 25 Group: Members Member #184,018 Joined: July 2, 2009 I'm Browsing With Firefox 3	You didn't hear it from me. http://lwn.net/Articles/249460/



Fission	Jul 28 2009, 02:24 PM Post #2
SRS BSNS Posts: 1,237 Group: Members Member #174,596 Joined: September 17, 2008 I'm Browsing With Firefox 3 My Board URL http://s15.zetaboards.com/Sonic_Cyclone	Is there any point to this but to try to start an argument over which language is better? Because, really, I don't fall for troll-bait. Most of the time.



Grant A.	Jul 29 2009, 04:30 AM Post #3
Member Posts: 25 Group: Members Member #184,018 Joined: July 2, 2009 I'm Browsing With Firefox 3	Fission Jul 28 2009, 02:24 PM Is there any point to this but to try to start an argument over which language is better? Because, really, I don't fall for troll-bait. Most of the time. I didn't really provide this to start an argument. I just thought that it was rather interesting, considering that he is quite an influential programmer. Besides, there is no "better" language, as each language is specifically designed for a certain task. No language is clearly better than another, as they all have their low points, and their high points. Edited by Grant A., Jul 29 2009, 04:32 AM.



Fission	Jul 29 2009, 04:35 AM Post #4
SRS BSNS Posts: 1,237 Group: Members Member #174,596 Joined: September 17, 2008 I'm Browsing With Firefox 3 My Board URL http://s15.zetaboards.com/Sonic_Cyclone	Regardless, it seems you're pushing your point a bit hard. It's a bit disconcerting, really >_>



Paper	Jul 31 2009, 05:41 PM Post #5
Member Posts: 2,067 Group: Members Member #19,225 Joined: May 17, 2004 I'm Browsing With Firefox 3	I'm not 100% sure, but I think that Linus might have just a small dislike of C++ Object Orientated programming is a very good idea, but it's still in its early days really. Edited by Paper, Jul 31 2009, 05:52 PM.



Fission	Aug 1 2009, 03:32 AM Post #6
SRS BSNS Posts: 1,237 Group: Members Member #174,596 Joined: September 17, 2008 I'm Browsing With Firefox 3 My Board URL http://s15.zetaboards.com/Sonic_Cyclone	Paper Jul 31 2009, 05:41 PM Object Orientated programming is a very good idea, but it's still in its early days really. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented_programming Quote: Objects as programming entities were introduced in the 1960s. . . His rant is all C++, which is far from the only programming language that supports OOP, and not OOP overall. OOP is a very useful feature of many programming languages. Most languages actually support OOP. C, C++, Java, PHP, JavaScript, Lua, and Python all support OOP at least in some form. Edited by Fission, Aug 1 2009, 03:35 AM.



Paper	Aug 27 2009, 10:00 AM Post #7
Member Posts: 2,067 Group: Members Member #19,225 Joined: May 17, 2004 I'm Browsing With Firefox 3	Well yes I am aware. I say that because I don't see many actively using it - for the simple fact that it's not useful unless you really know how to exploit it.



Reid.	Aug 28 2009, 03:17 PM Post #8
C'est un pičge! Posts: 378 Group: Members Member #147,240 Joined: February 13, 2007 I'm Browsing With Firefox 3 My Board URL http://resources.zetaboards.com/	Paper Aug 27 2009, 10:00 AM Well yes I am aware. I say that because I don't see many actively using it - for the simple fact that it's not useful unless you really know how to exploit it. Welcome to jQuery, the world of object-oriented programming. Or prototype. Or [insert your favorite library here.]



Fission	Aug 30 2009, 09:45 AM Post #9
SRS BSNS Posts: 1,237 Group: Members Member #174,596 Joined: September 17, 2008 I'm Browsing With Firefox 3 My Board URL http://s15.zetaboards.com/Sonic_Cyclone	Yep, and JSON is actually just shorthand for defining an object. Many things you think are not OOP are. Edit: And I can guarantee that almost any game you download is going to use objects. Also, ActionScript is based around a gigantic object hierarchy, so that includes almost any Flash thingamawhatsit you may find. Java's entire base structure is also object-based, so there's your Java applets. Oh, that browser you're using? Uses objects, guaranteed. Edited by Fission, Aug 30 2009, 09:47 AM.



Reid.	Aug 30 2009, 10:10 AM Post #10
C'est un pičge! Posts: 378 Group: Members Member #147,240 Joined: February 13, 2007 I'm Browsing With Firefox 3 My Board URL http://resources.zetaboards.com/	Fission Aug 30 2009, 09:45 AM Yep, and JSON is actually just shorthand for defining an object. Many things you think are not OOP are. Edit: And I can guarantee that almost any game you download is going to use objects. Also, ActionScript is based around a gigantic object hierarchy, so that includes almost any Flash thingamawhatsit you may find. Java's entire base structure is also object-based, so there's your Java applets. Oh, that browser you're using? Uses objects, guaranteed. JSON - JavaScript Object Notation (if memory serves) Objects are almost everywhere, whether they are prototype-based or class-based. OOP is a wonderful thing.



Jory	Aug 30 2009, 01:06 PM Post #11
Posts: 2,792 Group: Global Support Team Member #41,171 Joined: January 12, 2005 I'm Browsing With Firefox 3 My Board URL http://zb.jorygeerts.com/	OOP isn't about the language, its about the mindset. (Though obviously, some languages are more suited for OOP then others.)



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